Gender inequality in Silicon Valley remains a very real issue. In 1980 only 5 percent of engineers in the United States were women. Today, that number is only at 12 percent (source: American Association of University Women). And while the gap is significant, there’s an even larger divide when looking at the demographics of these women.

In this video from Wired, five women engineers discuss their personal experiences with sexism and representation in their field, and why greater diversity and inclusion makes better products for everyone.

“We can’t build an app for everybody around the world if everybody isn’t in the room, right?”

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